Podcast 227-Shulgin-Watts: “Sasha at MIT plus Alan Watts”
Guest speakers: Sasha Shulgin and Alan Watts
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[NOTE: The following quotations are by Sasha Shulgin.]
“So I look upon these materials [psychedelics] as being catalytic, not productive, they do not DO what occurs. The allow YOU to express what is in you that you had not had the ability to get to and express yourself without the help of a material.”

“I find that still the human animal is the only one that is really effective in evaluating and comparing these various psychedelic materials.”
[In testing a new substance] “You go with great caution. Decide what is the amount is that would have no effect and take one thousandths of that amount.”
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“I think that, thus far, the genius of this kind of underground that we’re talking about is that it has no leadership.”
“The history of America is the history of those of us that belong to this wonderful brotherhood and sisterhood of avant-garde inner voyagers. We believe that we’re the American tradition. And so we really weren’t that surprised when the thing exploded in the Sixties. That’s what we’d signed up for.”
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