Podcast 339 – “A Necessary Chaos”
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Guest speaker: Terence McKenna
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PROGRAM NOTES:
[NOTE: All quotations are by Terence McKenna.]
“This is where I think the psychedelics come in, because they are anticipations of the future. They seem to channel information that is not strictly governed by the laws of normal causality. So that there really is a prophetic dimension, a glimpse of the potential of the far centuries of the future through these compounds.”
“Actually, the highest form of human organization is not realized in the democratic individual. It is realized in a dimension none of us have ever penetrated, which is the mind of the species, which is actually the hand at the tiller of history. . . . It is an organized entelechy of some sort, and human history is its signature on the primates.”
“I think it’s the sheer power of the hallucinogens that puts people off. You either love them or you hate them, and that’s because they dissolve world views. And if you like the experience of having your entire ontological structure disappear out from under you, if you think that’s a thrill, you’ll probably love psychedelics.”
“The leading edge of reality is mind, and mind is the primary substratum of being.”
“We can no longer have forbidden areas of the human mind, or cultural machinery. We have taken upon ourselves the acquisition of so much power that we now must understand what we are. We cannot travel much further with the definitions of man that we inherit from the Judeo-Christian tradition. We need to truly explore the problem of consciousness.”
“Capitalism is a gun pointed at the head of global civilization.”
“The way I think of the psychedelics is, they are catalysts to the imagination.”
lil b Said,
January 31, 2013 @ 12:10 pm
Well well that was an interesting ride! Your comments at the end lorenzo really summed it up, (as a few net personalities have seemed to take Terence much more seriously than he took himself in an effort to discredit the man’s magic!) I also thank you for the audio editing, indeed most have heard the standard riffs repeatedly. Thanks brother
Richard J Hobin Said,
January 31, 2013 @ 7:30 pm
Keep editing. Perhaps for the new folks they might think they are missing something. But for us experienced listeners of the psychedelic bard, this edited version sounds fresh because the topics he touches are not his normal rap.
Purists or historian can listen to the full recording if they want too. I find it refreshing that you have the courage to this Larenzo to let your ear influence our ears.
Peace
Rafa Said,
February 11, 2013 @ 7:54 pm
My favorite quote is Terence’s comments on capitalism (around the 55:40 min mark):
“Because capitalism is not a human being; capitalism is a Moloch, a god, a god of bloody sacrifice that sees human beings as ants; and the more ants there are, the more offerings there can be to Moloch. But this is not a good situation for us ants.”
Thanks for the podcasts Lorenzo!
Derrick Said,
February 20, 2013 @ 9:31 pm
I too don’t mind the editing at this point, though having a link to the complete unedited versions of each talk would be nice for those historical scholars you refer to, or more importantly, new listeners to the Salon who just choose a McKenna talk at random to listen to, and for whom the McKenna stuff we regulars have heard many times will be new.
Further to that last point, does there exist or can you (or someone) make some sort of list of “Best of” McKenna talks in the Salon archive? I’m thinking specifically of a situation where I might want a friend unfamiliar with McKenna to hear some of his best stuff. It’d be great if there was a list of maybe half a dozen of his “best” that we could refer a McKenna newbie to.
I realize that it’ll be a matter of opinion as to which are the “best” McKenna talks, but if you could provide a list of a few you think might qualify, it’d give someone new to McKenna a place to start. Maybe such a list already exists? If so, can you tell us where?
[COMMENT by Lorenzo: I've seen requests for lists from time to time but haven't seen a compiled one yet. Personally, I'd start with "The Valley of Novelty" series starting with podcast 027. And they have their own Category link also: http://www.matrixmasters.net/salon/?cat=61 ]
Siem Said,
March 2, 2013 @ 7:01 am
Would there be that much left in a “best of Mckenna”
if one ignores al references to december 2012?
I’ve been a McKenna enthusiast for well over a decade
but now that the timewave hit zero, I don’t see the point.
IMHO McKenna’s song has been sung.